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Seth Lovers are the original PAF that all others are based on. lespaul01 Banned. It has the stock Burstbucker Pros. My brain is going around in circles trying to decide which of these would be best to replace the Japanese pick-ups in my Orville 335. This is the second set I have bought. They have really vintage honk. A cursory search for specs didn't yield anything, so I'm really not sure just what the real differences are between the two pickups, besides the Seths not being potted. Gibson Burstbucker Pro VS Seymour duncan Seth Lover SH-55; Page 1 of 4 1 2 3... Last. My LP standard has much more girth & depth to its tone, and I'm wondering how much of this difference can be attributed to the pickups, & how much to the build of the guitars. Joined Mar 12, 2011 Messages 16,929 Reaction … Upload or insert images from URL. The Seth Lover Set is the perfect choice for players wanting to transform a solid body or semi hollow into a singing classic rock machine. Art310. Which ones captures a better PAF tone? Not a big Seth Lover. Originally Posted by sgosnell. The Seth Lovers end up on many guitarists' fave pickup lists. And I really like 'em cause they have this great midrange growl to 'em that's great for classic rock (bridge pickup). The Seth Lover vintage output humbucker pickups are the perfect choice for players wanting to transform a solid body or semi hollow into a singing classic rock machine. Looking for sparkle and a hollow/open tone. not sure if you can believe gibson's specs. Seems that a lot of humbuckers just sound muddy to me. The Seth Lover neck model gives you a smooth but articulate tone by striking the perfect balance of warm, full low-end and a nice sweet treble.   Your previous content has been restored. Any 335 players out there using these pickups? I've had to have one Seth Lover re-wound and I made the mistake of wiring a guard for another one that has efficiency problems. Which do you like better? Joined: May 6, 2012 Location: England. Followers 0. It seems like it reaponds more to technique. For the neck position, I found the Seth Lover has a better balance of lows and also wasn’t overbearing. Clones and they are the best I have ever had. Lefty Addams Tele-Afflicted. BB1 and 2 are manageable at stage volume, but my BB3 in bridge position is far better suited for insane shred. That's been my impression of the BB3 as well, but yet they put it in such guitars as the Tak Matsumoto, Gary Moore and Joe Bonamassa and those guys aren't known for that kind of tone, they are fairly smooth sounding higher gain players. Pickup choice confusion is grand ain't it. Which do you like better? It sounds kinda dull with its stock pups in it. Burstbucker Pros. I have guitars with both and prefer the Seth Lovers. Go. They do have some biting highs which can be a little much at times...... but I simply back off the guitar volume a notch or two and it's super warm. Not muddy. I really like the BB1 & 2 but haven't compared it to the SLs yet. For the bridge pickups, I think the 57 Classic and the BB2 are both a tiny bit hotter than the Seth Lover, but not a radical difference. Of course, with modern distortion, it gets all nice and round. Next Last. View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message View Articles Senior Member User Info Menu. But if I had a guitar with it, I think I'd just keep the volume rolled off a hair, but without knob tweaking, it's certainly more oriented towards hard driving rock than smooth jazz. It comes in chrome, gold, or black, all metal. By way duncan seth lover/antiquity vs 5708/5909 vs burstbuckers. Product Specs. DaveGrima, December 23, 2010 in Electric Guitars. View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message View Articles Member User Info Menu. The BB sounded good but it always sounded the same to me. The Seth Lovers are P.A.F. Crawford354 New Member. Classic '57 fan here. Seth Lovers sound like a humbucker is supposed to sound like. It has a complexity even clean that the other two don't have. Would the bridge of the Seth be too bright? I have the BB3 in a LP Studio w BFG Electronics and a Joan Jett MM. Joined: Feb 16, 2014 Location: Antelope, California.   Pasted as rich text. But I have no experience with Seth Lovers. Show Printable Version; Email this Page… 14-01-09, 10:48 PM #21. dudelove. Discussion in 'The Tone Zone' started by Crawford354, Aug 13, 2013. The two coils are unbalanced, by a calculated degree to give rise to a little more attack; The magnet itself is an Alnico 5, which is the same only a little stronger than the Alnico II featured in the ’57 Classic; The Difference: In Words. Also +1 on the burstbucker. The SH-55 Seth Lover model is Seymour Duncan’s tribute to the father of the humbucking pickup. dkbarnwell Senior Member . Age: 57 Posts: 7,518. Posts: 1,740. I used to have Burstbuckers. By Incidentally, my LP has a 57 classic in the neck position, and it's just pure classic LP tone. I like the Burstbucker 1 also. Powered by Invision Community. Thanks in advance, Derek . Thread Tools. They are so smooth and responsive it's like playing with sounds that have a life of their own. lol.. Burstbucker Pro vs. Seth Lover. Seymour Duncan - Seth Lover vs '59 neck humbuckers Discussion in 'Just Pickups' started by Lefty Addams, Apr 19, 2017. × 9. February 2014 in Guitar. thx) 05-30-2018, 02:29 PM #18. The SL seems to have more character and reward me with a variety of sounds I couldn't get from the BBs. Hey Guys, Just curious to know the sonic differrences between the two. Im gonna replace the pickups in mynew Epi SG eventually and really, really want an old unpotted PAF. Page 1 of 2 1 2 Next > Apr 19, 2017 #1. The first humbucker was the PAF by Seth Lover (the PAF was named by the "patent applied for" pickerl on the underside), and it was found not only on the legendary Gibson guitars such as the Les Paul, SG , ES series, but also on the exotics like the Flying V or Explorer. © 1995-2019 Harmony Central, Inc. All rights reserved. I just picked up a 2005 Les Paul Standard Faded. The first humbucker was the PAF by Seth Lover (the PAF was named by the "patent applied for" pickerl on the underside), and it was found not only on the legendary Gibson guitars such as the Les Paul, SG , ES series, but also on the exotics like the Flying V or Explorer. Paste as plain text instead, × My take is that comparing the a 57 Classic to a Seth Lover to a Burstbucker 2 is they get more aggressive as you go in that order. Gibson. The BB1 is the lowest output of the three by a little bit. SO Ive narrowed it down to either Gibby Burstbuckers, or SD Seth Lovers. Joined: Nov 25, 2013 Messages: 42 Likes Received: 1. this is probably a long shot, but has anyone been able to to A/B seth lovers or antiquities next to 5708's or 59/09's? And they are still made exactly the same way they were made in 1958. Now the assembly sits idle because I've put a different pickup in.   Your link has been automatically embedded. 1 of 2 Go to page. Buy New. Seymour Duncan SH55 Seth Lover Humbucker The SH-55 was designed jointly by Seymour and humbucker inventor Seth Lover. Gallery. His response was that the ’57 Classic is made to Seth Lover’s original specifications, to the exact letter. × The difference is in the number of turns for the winding. So I'm starting to consider putting the Seth Lovers in it when it arrives and then maybe buying some Seymour Duncan Antiquites or a BB1 & 2 combo and putting them into the '83 CSE Studio. View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message User Info Menu. Jump to page: Results 1 to 10 of 34 Thread: Gibson Burstbucker Pro VS Seymour duncan Seth Lover SH-55. Even before it arrived I was planning to change the pickups. View Profile View Forum … Seymour W. Duncan and Seth Lover. © 1995-2019 Harmony Central, Inc. All rights reserved. I have some Burstbucker PROs in some of my Epiphone Les Pauls. The Burstbuckers are brighter and have more clarity but the SL's have that classic buttery PAF tone that we all know and love. Just beautiful sounding. He is most famous for developing the Gibson humbucker or hum-cancelling electric stringed instrument pickup, most often used on the electric guitar Life and career. The pickups on the Classic are uncovered which I would think would make some difference, but both sets have Alnico 5 magnets. Art310. Seymour Duncan - Seth Lover vs '59 neck humbuckers Discussion in 'Just Pickups' started by Lefty Addams, Apr 19, 2017.   Your link has been automatically embedded. The Pro Lead has 5300 on the screw side and 5500 on the slugs. elephantman, August 17, 2007 in Electric Guitars. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Just like the original 1955 P.A.F.s, the SH-55 utilizes a nickel silver bottom plate, butyrate plastic bobbins; plain enamel wire, an Alnico bar magnet, a wooden spacer, and black paper tape. Messages 642. I think of the BB3 sort of like the Super Distortion. But now I have a Epiphone Les Paul Custom Ltd Edition Silverburst on order. Frustrating part is a bought a set years ago but have never decided which would be the best axe to put them in. Follow this Product. By The bridge pickup has a lot of similarities to the original ’59 that Duncan offers, but it’s more harmonically rich and fatter. Be the first to know when more are listed: Follow this Product. That's the only used listing we have right now. Im gonna replace the pickups in mynew Epi SG eventually and really, really want an old unpotted PAF. But from my BB Pro experience and reads on the Seth Lover, I think the BB Pros will provide a bit more bitey bright edginess to them. Seth E. Lover (January 1, 1910 in Kalamazoo, Michigan – January 31, 1997 in Garden Grove, California) was a designer of amplifiers and musical instrument electronics and effects. A lot of that may depend on the guitar and the specific pickup you have, so experiances vary I'm sure but I'm sold on the SL. Clear editor. The Antiquities for example are supposed to sound even a bit better, and they might fit the aged look better, and the BB 1 & 2 might fit a vintage tone a hair better. For whatever it's worth..... here are some of my Burstbucker PRO clips: You can post now and register later. Seth Lovers Vs Burstbucker Pros. Gibson Burstbucker 1 and 2 Pickup Set 2012. Any guitar today that uses two coils in the same housing wired to get rid of the hum associated with single coil pickups owes a bit of thanks to the original pioneer of pickup design, Seth Lover. Thread: Gibson Burstbucker Pro VS Seymour duncan Seth Lover SH-55. Good question and it deserve a good answer but I can only provide a half-assed answer since I only have one guitar with the BB Pros and haven't gotten my Seth Lovers that I purchased 1.5 years ago installed yet. The BB had more honk than I like. The Seth Lover is a true and true vintage humbucker. The SL has more complexity to it. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. © 1995-2019 Harmony Central, Inc. All rights reserved. You can post now and register later. Musical, I suppose. Antiquity vs Seth Lover vs Burstbucker 1 & 2. equalsql Frets: 4221 . What guitar is this pickup going into? 1 of 2 Go to page. × Go. For neck pickups, I really like all three, the 57 Classic, the Seth Lover and the BB1. They are both Mahogany with a pretty thick Maple cap. © 1995-2019 Harmony Central, Inc. All rights reserved. B. billyjett Member. Oct 3, 2011 #1 Hey Folks, What's the difference between these sets of pups? IDK, I get some really tasty distortion leads with it. The distortion characteristics through the Marshall with the Seth Lover were similar to the number 2 Burstbucker in smoothness, but without the added bottom end of the Gibson. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. The Bursbucker Pro Rhythm pickup has 5000 winds on the screw side, and 5200 on the slug side. My burstbucker 1 is 7.5k and it's also wax potted which goes against their literature. Clear editor. Parts. I'm thinking about changing pickups in my Hamer Artist. But maybe the trick is just rolling off some tone. Now I have Seth Lovers. Because they're not wax-potted, the SL's have a lot more open clean sound, but they have been known to squeal under high gain. For neck pickups, I could easily live with the 57 Classic, the Seth Lover or the BB1. Display as a link instead, × I’ve tried a lot of pickups (57 classics, burstbucker pro, dirty fingers, dimarzios, Lace sensors and a lot of P.A.F. Aug 31, 2013 #1 This thread is in response to an earlier thread I posted regarding pickup choices for my 2005 SG. Attempting to verbally describe the difference in sound which these differences give rise to is a hilarious business. They come in both neck and bridge models, so you can get a nicely calibrated set if you’d like. Show Printable Version; Email this Page… 14-01-09, 06:38 PM #1. teleplayer. Burstbucker Pro vs. Seth Lover Sign in to follow this . I'm probably in the minority here, but I prefer the 57 to the Seth Lover.   You cannot paste images directly. Hi - speccing up a G&S Classic Bluesboy Tele at present with a humbucker in the neck and undecided about which of the SD buckers, these two are … I bought some limited edition anniversary engraved version of the Seth Lovers to put into my '83 Gibson Custom Shop Edition Les Paul Studio. Well. Reverb drenched clean demo of Gibson Burstbucker Pro neck (2007), Dimarzio Air Classic DP190, Seymour Duncan SH-55 Seth Lover, ESP LTD EC-256. Burstbucker Pros vs Burstbucker #1 & #2. Fairly low output, so they don't balance well volume wise with a lot of other pickups. Finish: Aged Nickel . However, I have a SL neck PU in my LP Studio and it's never squealed no matter how much gain I've thrown at it. Paste as plain text instead, × This pickup works awesome with clean tones and mid gain tones. Page 2 of 2 < Prev 1 2. View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message User Info Menu. I think it's vibe is to have a little more on tap, but maybe not always use it.   You cannot paste images directly. Dismalhead Poster Extraordinaire. Nothing but blue sky. Next Last. Apr 21, 2017 #21. Powered by Invision Community. I also have the Epi JB LP on order with a 2 & 3 combo, but it's just a pre-order so there is "mind changing time" left on that one. i did a search and came up with … It has Seths in it now, and I'm wondering what difference the BB's would make. They're primo vintage PAF tone, very warm, mellow and 'tubular,' due to the Alnico II magnets. Discussion in 'Electric Instruments' started by rumblebox, Nov 26, 2013. rumblebox New Member. Thread starter billyjett; Start date Aug 31, 2013; 1; 2; Next. Washburn J600 05-30-2018, 02:24 PM #17. I have 2 sets of them. By elephantman, August 17, 2007 in Electric Guitars. Which ones captures a better PAF tone? Thread starter dkbarnwell; Start date Oct 3, 2011; 1; 2; Next. my BB3 in bridge position is far better suited for insane shred. The Hamer is the "chambered" one (I refuse to refer to it as semi-hollow) with e F-hole, and the Paul is a 2006, so it's weight relieved & not chambered. Seymour Duncan bought the winding machine when Gibson moved from the Kalamazoo plant. Sell One Like This; Listings Price Guide. The Seth Lover neck model gives you a smooth but articulate tone by striking the perfect balance of warm, full low end and a nice sweet treble. I guess what I'm saying is part of me thinks the Seth Lovers, although they have a great rep and my luthier says it's one of his faves, they might not be the best vintage choice for my most rare of Gibbys. For bridge pickups, I've never been happier than with my Seth Lover. 2 cents, please. SO Ive narrowed it down to either Gibby Burstbuckers, or SD Seth Lovers. Seth Lover VS. Antiquity.   Your previous content has been restored. It's the only bridge humbucker I've ever owned that I play clean on the bridge pickup by itself. × I picked up a Gibson Midtown the other day. Burstbuckers are a lot hotter, higher output, more edgy. The 57s are all about smooth, the BBs are more about getting kind of aggressive and the Seth Lovers sort of split the difference. PLEASE SUBSCRIBE!I have been wanting to do a video like this one for a long time. because I think the BB pros are harsh, and I want something good for classic rock , think Free, … 02-04-2016, 09:19 PM #13. jzucker. Display as a link instead, × Reviews. Originally Posted by teleplayer. Buy Used. We're talking 1970s rock tone. I interviewed Seth Lover in 1992 for The Les Paul Book, my first book about Gibson's various Les Paul models, and our conversation focused on the humbucking pickup.Seth (1910–1997) devised the "Patent Applied For" humbucker at Gibson in the mid-'50s, and for that alone he was near the top of my list of people to track down, although his achievements were many, not only at Gibson but … 2 cents, please. Guitar Pickups. I like the pickups, but I really want a pickup with a bit more flexibility, less treble harshness. Joined Aug 15, 2009 Messages 120 Reaction score 11. in the same guitar? Not familiar with the Seth Lover, but my stock 490R crapped out on my SG recently and I put in a SD '59. Nothing but blue sky. Thread Tools.   Pasted as rich text. My Les Paul has a BB3 in the bridge, and it's a pretty smooth pickup. Brand: Gibson; Model: Burstbucker 1 and 2 Pickup Set. The B6 has a metal cover. Upload or insert images from URL. 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